40+ Celebrities Who Married People With the Most Normal Jobs

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We all have our favorite celebrity couples, but not all A-listers marry other famous people. The Hollywood dating pool is pretty impenetrable, but stars fall in love with civilians every once in a blue moon, proving there’s hope for us all! So, join us as we learn more about these normies who married celebs, how they met, and what keeps them together… so we mere mortals can keep dreaming!

Matt Damon and Luciana Damon

Ben Affleck famously dated Jennifer Lopez, Gwyneth Paltrow, Jennifer Garner, and Ana de Armas. But his best buddy Matt Damon is much more down to earth. While filming Stuck on You in 2003, crew members dragged Matt to a Miami establishment.

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There, the Bostonian actor met bartender Luciana Barroso, and it was love at first sight. “I got lucky,” he explained, “I fell in love with a civilian.” The two married in 2005 and have three daughters, Isabella, Stella, and Gia Zavala. Matt also adopted Luciana’s daughter, Alexia.

Gal Gadot and Yaron Varsano

The world’s luckiest man, real estate mogul Yaron Varsano met Gal Gadot at a yoga party in the Israeli desert. The Wonder Woman star explained, “It was all about yoga, chakras, and eating healthy—we didn’t exactly find ourselves there, but we found each other.”

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She continues, “He told me on our second date he was serious and wasn’t going to wait more than two years to ask me to marry him. Fast-forward two years, he proposed. We were married in 2008.” They have three daughters, Alma, Maya, and Daniella.

Keanu Reeves and Alexandra Grant

Sorry ladies, Keanu Reeves is taken. The John Wick actor met visual artist Alexandra Grant at a dinner party in 2009. They grew closer in 2011 when Alexandra wrote a book for Keanu called Ode to Happiness, which she described as “a playful guide to climbing out of depression.”

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Keanu was so impressed that they collaborated on two books together. They became an item around 2018 but kept their relationship under wraps for months. Paparazzi recently confused Keanu’s mom for silver-haired Alexandra!

Idris Elba and Sabrina Dhowre

English beefcake Idris Elba shot to fame on The Wire and as BBC detective John Luther. In 2017, he was filming The Mountain Between Us with Kate Winslet in Vancouver, Canada, when he saw gorgeous Somali-Canadian model Sabrina Dhowre and fell head over heels. They married in an extravagant Moroccan ceremony two years later.

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As a model and occasional actress, Sabrina isn’t necessarily a normie. Still, we’re pretty sure Idris would’ve fallen in love with her anyway, even if she was a street sweeper!

Ariana Grande and Dalton Gomez

In 2019, pop princess Ariana Grande was looking to buy a new home. She wanted somewhere she could escape the hustle and bustle of Los Angeles celebrity life, so her team put her in touch with real estate agent Dalton Gomez.

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A source told Us Magazine, “When she saw him, she immediately thought he was cute and very good-looking, and she asked her team to set up an in-person meeting with him. Ariana fell very hard for Dalton shortly after they met.” You see, even realtors can find love!

Pierce Brosnan and Keely Shaye Smith

Former James Bond, Pierce Brosnan, could have picked any lady. That’s why choosing normie Keely Shaye Smith is one of our most surprising entries. The Irish actor met the American journalist and author at a beach party in Mexico in 1994, and she became 007’s only leading lady.

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He once said, “I love her vitality, her passion. She has this strength that I wouldn’t be able to live without. When Keely looks at me, I go weak.” They married in 2001 and have been together ever since.

Jimmy Fallon and Nancy Juvonen

Jimmy Fallon met producer Nancy Juvonen on the set of Saturday Night Live. In 2007, they visited Nancy’s family home in Wolfeboro, New Hampshire. At sunset, Jimmy got down on one knee on the family dock of Lake Winnipesaukee to ask for her hand in marriage. Awww!

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They were married four months later and welcomed two daughters, Winnie Rose and Frances Cole. Jimmy went on to host The Tonight Show while Nancy owns the production company Flower Films with Drew Barrymore.

Taylor Lautner and Taylor Dome

Hunky Taylor Lautner is most famous for playing shapeshifter Jacob Black in The Twilight Saga film franchise. Taylor Dome is a registered nurse and mental health advocate who launched The Lemons Foundation. Lautner’s sister, Makena Moore, knew Dome from Nashville and introduced Taylor to Taylor. Because that’s not gonna get confusing!

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“Think I picked out a good one for my brother,” Moore wrote in an Instagram post celebrating their engagement. They married in 2020 and co-host The Squeeze podcast, which is about prioritizing mental health and wellness.

Dave Grohl and Jordyn Blum

Jordyn Blum was a former child model and producer at MTV, where she met Foo Fighter’s singer and Nirvana drummer, Dave Grohl. The pair married in 2003 and had three talented daughters, but it almost didn’t happen…

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Dave explained, “We went out on a few dates, and I decided that I wasn’t ready for a serious relationship, so I just stopped calling. After three months, I had a revelation and called her back. She picked up the phone and said, ‘Oh, I never thought I’d hear from you again.’”

Donald Glover and Michelle White

Creative dynamo Donald Glover starred in Community, played Lando Calrissian in Solo: A Star Wars Story, and conquered the charts as hip-hop star Childish Gambino. He also writes, directs, and stars in his Emmy Award-winning show Atlanta. He keeps his private life ultra-secret, so not much is known except that he started dating Michelle White in 2015.

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While accepting a Golden Globe award in 2017, Donald announced they were married. He and Michelle have three sons, Legend, Drake, and Donald Jr.

Julia Roberts and Daniel Moder

Julia Roberts previously dated Jason Patric, Liam Neeson, Kiefer Sutherland, Dylan McDermott, Matthew Perry, Lyle Lovett, and Benjamin Bratt. By the turn of the millennia, the beautiful actress surely had enough of celebrity boyfriends. As proof that hope springs eternal for us all, Julia fell in love with cameraman Danny Moder on the set of The Mexican in 2000.

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The happy couple married in 2002 and have been married for over 20 years. They have three children, twins Hazel and Phinnaeus, plus another boy Henry.

Kelsey Grammer and Kayte Walsh

In December 2009, Kelsey Grammer was still married to his third wife, actress Camille Meyer when he met British flight attendant Kayte Walsh. The Frasier star was flying to England and described his first date with Kayte as a “magical night in the snow in London around Christmastime.”

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They announced their engagement a year later and married in New York in February 2011. Kayte and Kelsey had three children together, meaning Kelsey Grammer became a dad for the seventh time – in his 60s!

Zoe Saldaña and Marco Perego

Zoe Saldaña met Italian artist Marco Perego on a flight after falling in love with the back of his head! The stunning actress said, “I just saw him from behind. It was 6:30 in the morning, I was on a flight to New York, and I can’t even describe to you it was a vibration.”

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She continued, “He turned in that moment because he felt the vibration as well.” The pair of hotties married in 2013 and have three sons, Bowie Ezio, Cy Aridio, and Zen.

John Cena and Shay Shariatzadeh

Wrestler, actor, and DC superhero Peacemaker met software manager Shay Shariatzadehon on the set of Playing With Fire in her Canadian hometown. Cena first noticed the Iranian-born beauty when she was dining with friends at a Vancouver restaurant.

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“There was one woman I was looking at, and I couldn’t take my eyes off her,” Cena said. They married at an attorney’s office in Tampa, Florida, but had to delay their Vancouver wedding celebration until 2022.

Natalie Portman and Benjamin Millepied

Actress Natalie Portman and French dancer and choreographer Benjamin Millepied met when he was putting together her ballet moves on the set of Darren Aronofsky’s Black Swan. He’s a wonderful dancer, but it takes him a long time to put 500 pairs of ballet shoes on! Get it? He’s a millipede!

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Jokes aside, Ben’s last name does actually mean ‘thousand feet’ in his native tongue. The dancer married Harvard Ph.D. Psychology graduate and actress Natalie in 2012. They have a girl, Amalia, and a boy, Aleph.

Riz Ahmed and Fatima Farheen Mirza

British actor and rapper Riz Ahmed met Fatima Farheen Mirza at a coffee shop in New York. While Riz MC (that’s his rap name) was busy preparing for his role in The Sound of Metal, he popped into a local café to sit down and do some writing.

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Riz’s eyes must have popped out of his head when, like a meet-cute in a rom-com, he spotted award-winning American author Fatima Farheen Mirza working on a novel at another table. The couple got to talking, dated for a while, and tied the knot in 2020.

George Clooney and Amal Alamuddin

Hollywood’s hottest bachelor George Clooney shot to fame in E.R. and in 1997’s laughable Batman & Robin. He never thought he’d marry until a mutual friend brought accomplished human rights attorney Amal Alamuddin to dinner at George’s home in Italy in 2013. A year later, they became husband and wife and welcomed twins Alexander and Ella in 2017.

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George and Amal make a formidable team. When they aren’t looking after their kids, they’re using their millions to better the world.

Reese Witherspoon and Jim Toth

In 2006, Reese Witherspoon divorced Ryan Phillippe, citing irreconcilable differences. Next, she dated Jake Gyllenhaal for two years, but that didn’t work out either. So, by 2010, she had learned her lesson about dating fellow actors. That year, Reese was at a party when Jim Toth saved her from being hit on by his rowdy friend. They got to talking, and…

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The couple married in March 2011 and had a son, Tennessee James Toth, in 2012. James is a talent agent and co-head of motion picture talent at Creative Artists Agency, where Witherspoon is a client. Sadly, the couple has since split up.

LeBron and Savannah James

Billionaire basketball player, Chicago Bulls legend, face of the NBA, and world-record points scorer, LeBron James, could have married anyone he wanted, from actresses and supermodels to superfit athletes. But instead, King James married his high school sweetheart. He met Savannah Brinson at Mary High School in his hometown of Akron, Ohio, in 2002 and asked the then-16-year-old to a basketball game.

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They married in 2013 and have three children––two boys, LeBron (aka Bronny) and Bryce, who are following in their father’s footsteps playing basketball. They also have a daughter, Zhuri.

Ed Sheeran and Cherry Seaborn

Ed Sheeran had a crush on Cherry Seaborn in high school in England, but they went their separate ways. The ginger genius went on to become a musical wunderkind. A mutual friend helped him reconnect with Cherry while he was playing in New York, where she was working as a financial adviser on Wall Street.

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They finally got together in 2015, and Cherry inspired the song “Perfect.” In January 2018, Ed and Cherry announced their engagement and were married a year later. They have two daughters, Lyra Antarctica and Jupiter.

Alec Baldwin and Hilaria Thomas

Alec Baldwin was married to Kim Basinger and dated actresses Lori Singer, Michelle Pfeiffer, Jennifer Love Hewitt, and Ally Sheedy. But in 2011, he spotted yoga instructor Hilaria Thomas in a restaurant.

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She explained, “I was standing near the door with my friends when he walked up and took my hand and said, ‘I must know you.’” Because that’s not creepy at all! They married in 2013 in New York City and have kept themselves busy by having seven children in under a decade!

Eddie Redmayne and Hannah Bagshawe

Eddie Redmayne met future public relations executive Hannah Bagshawe while attending Eton College with Prince William. Their class performed a charity fashion show at a local girls boarding school, and while Eddie was embarrassed to appear topless, he was happy to meet Hannah.

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“I saw Hannah across the room at a party afterward, and she was very beautiful, very funny, and she loves the arts and theater […] so we became friends.” They remained friends for 15 years and married in 2014. They have two kids, Iris and Luke.

Prince William and Kate Middleton

Prince William and Kate Middleton first met when they were students at St. Andrews University in Scotland. The future King explained, “When I first met Kate, I knew there was something very special about her, and then I knew there was possibly something I wanted to explore there, but we ended up being friends for a while.”

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Their friendship became love as Kate graduated with a BA in Art History before working in retail, marketing, and charity work. They married in 2011 in a wedding ceremony watched by 2 billion people!

George Lucas and Mellody Hobson

Star Wars and Indiana Jones creator George Lucas already had three kids, one with his ex-wife and two he adopted as a single parent. He met Mellody Hobson, president of investment management firm Ariel Investments and chair of DreamWorks Animation, at a business conference in Aspen in 2006. The couple married in 2015 at Lucas’s Skywalker Ranch.

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George and Mellody have one daughter, Everest Hobson Lucas, born via surrogate. George must have realized he could finally afford another kid after selling Lucasfilm to Disney for $4 billion!

Anne Hathaway and Adam Shulman

When Anne Hathaway met jewelry designer Adam Shulman in 2008, she told a friend, “I’m going to marry that man… I think he thought I was a little nuts, which I am a bit, but I’m also nice.” They married in 2012 and have two children.

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She later confessed, “I knew from the second I met him that he was the love of my life. I also knew that I couldn’t have met him at a worse time… I took my trust out for a ridiculous joyride with him.”

Ken Jeong and Tran Ho

Did you know that as well as being an actor, comedian, and panelist on The Masked Singer, Ken Jeong is also a real-life doctor? He swapped his medical career to become a comedian and actor in The Hangover film franchise and NBC’s sitcom Community.

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Ken met family physician Tran Ho on a blind date at a masked ball. No, not really; they met at a mixer for single doctors while both worked at a Los Angeles hospital. They married in 2004 and had twins, Zooey and Alexa, in 2007.

Dolly Parton and Carl Dean

On the same day 18-year-old budding country music singer Dolly Parton moved to Nashville, Tennessee, 21-year-old Carl spotted her outside a Wishy Washy Laundromat. “My first thought was I’m gonna marry that girl,” Carl recalled. “My second thought was, ‘Lord, she’s good-looking.'”

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He introduced himself, they hit it off, and he took her to meet his parents within a week. After two years of dating, they tied the knot in 1966. Dolly became a global superstar and philanthropist, and they’re still happily married today. That’s almost 60 years!

Jesse Tyler Ferguson and Justin Mikita

Actor Jesse Tyler Ferguson portrayed Mitchell Pritchett on ABC’s sitcom Modern Family from 2009 to 2020. During that time, he met lawyer Justin Mikita at his local gym.

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They married in 2013, with screenwriter and playwright Tony Kushner officiating at their wedding. The couple has two children, Beckett Mercer and Sullivan Louis, born via a surrogate mother.

Jon Stewart and Tracey McShane

In 1996, veterinary technician Tracey McShane’s roommate set her up on a blind date, but it almost didn’t happen. Her friend gave Tracey’s phone number to an actor on the film set where she worked. He wrote it down on a dollar bill but bought something with the dollar bill.

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When he realized his mistake, he frantically scrambled to get Tracey’s digits from the call sheet. That actor was future-Daily Show host Jon Stewart and the blind date went well. He later proposed via a crossword clue, and they married in 2000.

Hasan Minhaj and Beena Patel

Hasan Minhaj became famous as a correspondent on The Daily Show. Then, he starred in his irreverent Netflix show, Patriot Act With Hasan Minhaj. He dated doctor Beena Patel for a decade before plucking up the courage to get down on one knee. They married in 2015.

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Beena is a board-certified family physician and primary care doctor in North Carolina. The couple tried to have a baby for years and they eventually welcomed two children.

Denzel and Pauletta Washington

Denzel met his wife Pauletta Pearson on the set of his first screen work, the TV film Wilma, way back in 1975! The legendary actor once told Jimmy Kimmel that Pauletta had to pay for the cab ride on their first date because he ran out of money!

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Pauletta is a vocalist, classically trained pianist, actress, and mom to their four children. The couple’s children are actor John David Washington, Hollywood producer Katia Washington, and twins Malcolm and Olivia, who are a producer/director and a model/actress, respectively.

Christian Bale and Sibi Blažić

Christian Bale wasn’t interested in tying the knot until Winona Ryder introduced him to her personal assistant, Sibi Blažić. The Serbian-American beauty and Christian eloped in Las Vegas in January 2000 and were married by an Elvis Presley impersonator.

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They had a daughter Emmeline Bale in 2005 and a son Joseph in 2014. Sibi is a former model, actress, make-up artist, and stuntwoman who went on to work with her husband as a stunt driver in The Dark Knight Rises and Ford vs. Ferrari.

Aaron Paul and Lauren Parsekian

Breaking Bad star Aaron Paul met Lauren Parsekian at the Coachella music festival, and they shared their first kiss on the Ferris wheel. In 2013, they walked down the aisle at a 1920s Parisian carnival-themed wedding in Malibu, California.

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Lauren is an activist and co-founder of Kind Campaign, an NGO that helps combat the effects of girl-against-girl bullying, while Aaron went on to star in Westworld. The two married in 2013 and have a daughter, Story Annabelle, and a son, Ryden Caspian.

Miranda Lambert and Brendan McLoughlin

Country singer Miranda Lambert met NYPD officer Brendan McLoughlin when she performed on Good Morning America with her band, Pistol Annies. McLoughlin was doing security for the show, and her bandmates invited him to meet her. It was love at first sight when they met, as the pair hit it off immediately.

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Then, four years after the singer’s divorce from fellow country star Blake Shelton, Miranda married Brendan in a secret 2019 ceremony at the star’s 400-acre Tenessee horse farm. McLoughlin retired from the NYPD in 2020.

Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Tasha McCauley

In 2013, ultra-private Joseph Gordon-Levitt let slip that he had a girlfriend on The Howard Stern Show. The actor told the shock jock that he was dating someone who’s “not in show business… The girl that I’m with, she really doesn’t want to be a part of that.”

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The following year, he married robotics entrepreneur Tasha McCauley. She’s a highly qualified scientist and CEO of the robotics company Fellow Robots. Though very secretive, they performed together at a 2016 charity event. They have two sons.

Wanda Sykes and Alex Niedbalski

Writer, comedian, and actor Wanda Sykes was married to record producer Dave Hall in the 1990s but publicly came out in 2008. On a ferry ride to Fire Island, New York, Wanda noticed Alex Niedbalski talking to a child and was instantly attracted to her.

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Wanda then asked a friend to introduce them because she was remodeling her kitchen and required granite countertops Alex was selling. The couple married in 2008, and Niedbalski gave birth to the couple’s twins in 2009.

Meryl Streep and Don Gummer

In 1978, as Meryl Streep mourned the tragic passing of her boyfriend, John Cazale, her brother brought his friend Don Gummer to help her pack up their belongings. The actress exchanged letters with the sculptor and soon moved in with him. Within six months, the pair were married.

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Fast forward 45 years, and the couple has one son and three daughters, including actress Grace Gummer, who starred in Mr. Robot. In that time, mom Meryl has also racked up the most Oscar nominations of all time, with 21 nominations and three wins.

Elizabeth Banks and Max Handelman

You know how some people meet someone on their first day of college, date them for three years, only to dump them on the last day of college? Well, Elizabeth Banks met her husband, Max Handelman, a sportswriter and producer from Portland, Oregon, on her first day of college.

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The date was September 7th, 1992, and they’ve been together ever since! The happy couple married in 2003 and have two sons, Felix and Magnus, who were born via surrogate.

Seth Meyers and Alexi Ashe

Seth Meyers met human rights lawyer Alexi Ashe in 2013. Her sister is a set designer on SNL, and the couple met at a colleague’s wedding. The late-night host confessed, “I had a sense that she was the closest I’d ever met to someone who I could see myself with. Pretty much right away.”

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Meyers tied an engagement ring around their dog’s collar but thought, “The dog’s going to eat the ring!” They married in 2013 and have three children, one of whom was born in the lobby of their apartment building.

Paul Rudd and Julie Yaeger

On the day Paul Rudd moved to Manhattan, he took his luggage to his publicist’s office, and Julie Yaeger, who worked there, offered to drop it off at his friend’s apartment so he wouldn’t be late for an audition. A few days later, the Ant-Man star returned to ask Julie out for coffee. They married in 2003.

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Fast forward two decades, and he’s a major Hollywood star while she’s a publicist, author, screenwriter, and mom to their son Jack Sullivan and daughter Darby.

Tina Fey and Jeff Richmond

Writer, comedian, and actress Tina Fey met Jeff Richmond in the mid-1990s while they were both working at Second City in Chicago. When Jeff saw Tina on stage improvising, he instantly knew two things – that she was going to be a star and that he would marry her.

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He was right; Tina became a cast member and head writer for Saturday Night Live and created and starred in 30 Rock. Jeff became Chicago’s Second City’s musical director. They married in 2009 and have two daughters, Alice Zenobia and Penelope Athena.

Jeff Bridges and Susan Geston

Jeff Bridges and Susan Bridges are a love story for the ages. They met in 1975 while the future Hollywood legend was filming Rancho Deluxe and Susan was a waitress on a ranch. It was love at first sight for Jeff, and they got hitched in 1977. They had three daughters, Isabelle, Haley, and Jessica Lily.

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Jeff and Susan have been happily married for 45 years. So what’s their secret? They say they’re still together after so long because they managed to keep the honeymoon phase alive and kicking.

Terry Crews and Rebecca King-Crews

The world’s greatest man, Terry Crews, has been successful at everything he’d turned his hand to, from NFL player to actor, TV presenter, and writer. He married Rebecca King-Crews when he was still at college, and she was a music minister. Rebecca might have gone on to fame as a reality TV presenter and actress, but she was a normie when then married in 1989.

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The wholesome couple had daughters, Azriél, Tera, and Wynfrey, plus a son Isiah. Terry also adopted Naomi, Rebecca’s daughter from a previous relationship.

Amy Schumer and Chris Fischer

While staying at her vacation home, actress and comedian Amy Schumer’s assistant Molly invited her brother, chef Chris Fischer, to come and cook for them. The pair instantly sparked, and Amy later revealed on the Today Show that she knew Chris was “the one” after a month of dating, adding, “We got down to business really quick!”

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In 2018, the pair tied the knot in a surprise wedding in Malibu, California. Amy had a bun in the oven within two years, and the couple served up a son, Gene David.

Jon Bon Jovi and Dorothea Hurley

Jon Bon Jovi started dating Dorothea Hurley while in high school in New Jersey in 1980. The pair have always been together ever since. However, the young lovers waited nine years to get married – at the height of Bon Jovi’s fame.

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On a Los Angeles stop of 1989’s New Jersey Syndicate Tour, the couple went to Las Vegas to tie the knot at the Graceland Wedding Chapel. Jon and Dorothea have a daughter and three sons. This celebrity and normie definitely don’t give love a bad name!

Matthew McConaughey and Camila Alves

One night in 2006, Matthew McConaughey was in a club when he spotted Camila Alves at another table. Now, being a man who knows what he wants, he invited the Brazilian model and designer and her friends over to join his group.

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Matthew and Camila hit it off, became engaged on Christmas Day 2011, and married the following June. They live in Austin, Texas, with their two sons, Levi and Livingston, and daughter Vida.